Passionate about Discipleship with Caesar Kalinowski

Episode 5 of our Intergenerational Ministry season allows us to chat with Caesar Kalinowski as we consider the roles of family, the pursuit of identity, and some fundamental truths that might offer direction for ministries with young people.

Caesar is a spiritual entrepreneur and an avid storyteller. He loves to help those with a high commitment to intentional living in the areas of their family, faith and discipleship acquire the leadership skills and tools necessary to succeed and leave a lasting legacy. He is a master missional strategist and coach who has helped numerous church planters start, grow and multiply new churches. Caesar authored the best selling The Gospel Primer and Transformed: A New Way of Being Christian. His latest book, Bigger Gospel, was recently published by Missio Publishing. He and his wife of 36 years, Tina, live near Seattle.

Caesar also hosts the Everyday Disciple podcast, which is a fantastic resource. As a bonus, listeners can get a free copy of Caesar’s Be The Church, featuring 10 illustrations and 10 conversations about church mission.

And as promised, here are the links for UNDER MIDNIGHT’S hit single Cyber Vision and GENERATION’S album Brutal Reality.

Past, Present & Future, with Christina Embree

We’re delighted to have Christina Embree join us for E04 in our Intergenerational Ministry series. Make sure you check out Christina’s writing at & connect on twitter @EmbreeChristina

Christina’s blogs on intergenerational ministry through her website Refocus Ministry are read around the world. Christina is wife to Luke. She is a current doctoral student at Wesley Seminary. She serves as the Minister of Generational Discipleship for the Great Lakes Conference of the Brethren in Christ church (US). Mother to three wonderful kids. Church Planter and Next Gen Coordinator at Plowshares BIC. 

Season 6

We wanted to make accessing our Intergenerational Conversation series as easy as possible, so below is the mini-player link for each episode. You can also listen to the show via Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify or your favourite podcast app.

Episode 5 with Caesar Kalinowski

Episode 4 with Christina Embree

Episode 3 with Cory Seibel

Episode 2 with Holly Allen

Episode 1 with John Roberto

Leading Intergenerational Communities with Cory Seibel

Cory Seibel strives to be a thoughtful, passionate advocate for intergenerational ministry. His aim is to encourage and equip followers of Jesus to build extraordinary communities of faith where people of all generations share life together. He is committed to investing his skills as a researcher, writer, and presenter to advance a creative, constructive vision of intergenerational ministry in today’s church.

You can access Cory’s writing & more via his website & we recommend reading Cory’s book The Generative Church (link below). Cory also contributed to Intergenerate (which we mentioned often through S04 & S05).

Knowing the generations with Holly Allen

We continue our conversation with scholars and practitioners developing Intergenerational Ministry, and this week’s guest is Dr Holly Allen. Holly is the founder of the Intergenerate Conference, and has written numerous books, including Intergenerational Christian Formation and InterGenerate, both of which have featured in earlier library sections of this podcast.

Our conversation explores how a deeper understanding of the generations within church communities can reveal opportunities for intergenerational relationships and discipleship. We intentionally focus on those beyond children & families, as we hope to reinforce that this conversations is not merely an evolution of ministry with children, rather a fresh approach to discipleship valuing all members equally.

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Intergenerational Ministry with John Roberto

We kick off SEASON 6 (what?!?) with our guest John Roberto. Each week we’ll chat to a scholar, practitioner or theologian regarding how Intergenerational discipleship and faith formation and shape ministries with young people. Special thanks for the team at Intergenerate Australia for their support.

John Roberto is on the leadership team of Vibrant Faith Ministries where he coordinates Vibrant Faith Catalyst – an online community and resource centre for pastors and faith formation leaders. John works as a consultant to churches and national organisations, teaches courses and conducts workshops in faith formation, and has authored books and program manuals in faith formation. John has a masters degree in religious education from Fordham University and graduate studies in sociology at Catholic University of America. John has been involved in Christian ministry and faith formation since 1969.

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Joy? We chat with Wes Ellis

A bonus episode for you, our beloved audience. Building on important work from Yale University, three new books have emerged reimagining youth ministry being centred on joy. Wes Ellis is a contributing author to two of the books, and is a real-life character in the third. Who better to help us develop our understanding of this emerging work.

You can find out more about the books at and you can connect with Wes via his website

Also, we’re super proud to announce Season 6 – a collaborative project with Intergenerate Australia, exploring how Intergenerational Ministry can shape discipleship with young people. Stay tuned – S06E01 drops Wednesday July 15!

#RoundTheBlock with Youth Pastor Bode Wright

It’s the end of season 5, and we celebrate this by checking out the new Youth Pastor at the First Church of Springfield. Yes, The Simpsons has discovered the rich repository of humour that is youth ministry, and Bode Wright joins Rev Lovejoy on staff.

After 15 years of not watching The Simpsons, Bradon got access to Foxtel and discovered a lot had happened since he stopped watching. Conveniently (at least for this podcast), two episodes in S31 of The Simpsons explore the caricatured reality of youth ministry in Springfield.

*If you can’t access the episodes yet, you can check out Laughing Place episode summaries of both “Warrin’ Priests” episodes (Part One) (Part Two).

Work Experience Podcast will return for Season 6 later in 2020.